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Notice: This opinion is subject to correction before publication in the Pacific Reporter. Readers are requested to bring errors to the attention of the Clerk of the Appellate Courts, 303 K Street, Anchorage, Alaska 99501, phone (907) 264-0608, fax (907) 264-0878, e-mail corrections@appellate.courts.state.ak.us. THE SUPREME COURT OF THE STATE OF ALASKA
PAUL DAVID MUNSON, | ) Supreme Court No. S-10444 |
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Petitioner, | ) Court of Appeals No. |
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) Superior Court No. | |
STATE OF ALASKA, | ) 3AN-S99- 7945 CR |
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Respondent. | ) O P I N I O N |
_______________________________ | ) [No. 5959 - November 18, 2005] |
Petition for Hearing from the Court of Appeals of the State of Alaska, on Appeal from the Superior Court, Third Judicial District, Anchorage, Michael L. Wolverton, Judge. Appearances: Cynthia L. Strout, Anchorage, for Appellant. W. H. Hawley, Assistant Attorney General, Office of Special Prosecutions and Appeals, Anchorage, and Bruce M. Botelho, Attorney General, Juneau, for Appellee. Before: Fabe, Chief Justice, Matthews, Eastaugh, Bryner, and Carpeneti, Justices. CARPENETI, Justice. MATTHEWS, Justice, dissenting. I. INTRODUCTION I. During a custodial interrogation, murder suspect Paul Munson unambiguously declared that he wished to terminate the interrogation. The investigator continued questioning Munson, who subsequently confessed to his participation in the crime. The trial court suppressed the confession. The court of appeals reversed, finding that Munson had only ambiguously invoked his right to remain silent, that an ambiguous request is insufficient to invoke the right, and that a police interrogator has no duty to clarify an ambiguous invocation of the right. Because we find that Munson unambiguously invoked his right to remain silent, we reverse the decision of the court of appeals. II. FACTS AND PROCEEDINGS A. Facts On September 14, 1999 Paul Munson was charged with the murder of Morgan (Wolfie) Gorsche. The state alleged that Munson and three friends killed Gorsche in retaliation for allegedly molesting a three-year old girl. On September 15 Munson was arrested in Portland, Oregon by Anchorage police detectives Joseph Hoffbeck and David Parker, who interviewed Munson at a Portland police station before his extradition to Alaska. They informed Munson of his Miranda1 rights and proceeded to ask him questions about the murder. A few minutes into the interview, as Detective Hoffbeck began to ask questions directly related to the homicide, Munson expressed fear that a co-defendant, Samuel Camanga, might learn of his discussion with the police, and he indicated that he did not want to discuss the crime: [Munson]: Whats gonna happen? Is Sam gonna know Im saying this? [Investigator]: Maybe Sams already talked to me. [Munson]: No, but . . . [Investigator]: Eventually Sam is going to know, yes . . . the answer to that is yes. Everybody . . . everybody involved is going to know eventually . . . yes they will. [Munson]: Well, Im done talkin then. (Emphasis added.) Rather than ceasing the questioning at this point, Detective Hoffbeck continued: [Investigator]: Before you make a final decision on that there . . . play that tape there for him . . . [Munson]: You know whatll happen to me? [Investigator]: Listen to this here . . . [2 ] Hoffbeck then played a recording, which had been surreptitiously obtained pursuant to a Glass warrant,3 of Munson discussing the killing with another co-defendant, Shane Clapper. After playing the recording and attempting to persuade Munson that his fears were unfounded, the investigator continued questioning Munson, who eventually confessed to his participation in the murder and implicated Sam Camanga as the person who actually shot Gorsche. B. Proceedings At an evidentiary hearing before Superior Court Judge Michael L. Wolverton, Munson argued that his confession should be suppressed because the state failed to honor his request to remain silent. Judge Wolverton agreed with Munson, concluding that he had attempted to invoke his right to remain silent when he said Well, Im done talkin then, and that the investigator violated this right by continuing the interrogation. The court suppressed Munsons statements following his invocation of the right to remain silent. The state petitioned for review, arguing that suppression was inappropriate because Munson had only equivocally invoked his right to remain silent, which, it claimed, was insufficient to trigger the states obligation to terminate the interrogation or to clarify Munsons intent. The court of appeals agreed.4 The appeals court first found that Munson had ambiguously invoked his right to remain silent.5 Although the trial court had made no such finding, the court of appeals concluded that such a determination was implicit in the trial courts description of what the police should have done after Munson said, Well, Im done talkin then.6 The court then noted that while Alaska law requires the police to clarify ambiguous requests for counsel,7 the U.S. Supreme Courts more recent pronouncement in Davis v. United States8 imposes no such duty on police interrogators. 9 Citing a number of jurisdictions that have construed Davis to also require an unambiguous invocation of the right to remain silent,10 and reasoning that the right to counsel is more rigidly observed than the right to silence,11 the court concluded that the police have no duty to clarify an ambiguous invocation of the right to remain silent, and it reversed the suppression of Munsons confession.12 We granted review. III. STANDARD OF REVIEW Whether Munson invoked the right against self- incrimination protected by both the United States13 and Alaska Constitutions14 presents a mixed question of law and fact that we review using our independent judgment.15 We adopt factual findings made by the trial court that are not clearly erroneous.16 In the absence of express findings, we must resolve disputed factual issues in favor of the party prevailing in the trial court.17 We review questions of law de novo,18 and adopt the rule of law that is most persuasive in light of precedent, reason, and policy.19 IV. DISCUSSION A. Munsons Request To Terminate the Custodial Interrogation Was Unambiguous. Was Munsons statement, Well, Im done talkin then, adequate to invoke the right to silence protected by the Fifth Amendment to the Federal Constitution and article I, section 9 of the Alaska Constitution? On its face, Munsons statement was entirely unambiguous: He clearly indicated that he was finished talking with the police. The state argues, as it did below, that the context of Munsons comment showed that he was afraid of retaliation by Sam Camanga not of incriminating himself. The state reasons that Munsons request was therefore equivocal and thus insufficient to trigger any duty by the police to honor Munsons right to silence. The court of appeals agreed.20 We agree that the context of Munsons statement suggests that he wanted to terminate the interrogation because he was afraid of retaliation by Sam Camanga. But there was nothing ambiguous about the statement itself; and an otherwise unambiguous request to terminate a custodial interview does not become somehow equivocal because it might be motivated by a fear of retaliation.21 Indeed, Detective Hoffbeck testified that he understood Munsons request as an attempt to cut off questioning entirely, but that he did not consider this statement to be an invocation of the right to silence because Munson did not express his desire in a manner which required him to cut off questioning.22 Thus, we conclude that a reasonable officer in these circumstances would have understood Munsons statement that he was done talkin, without condition or qualification, to be an unequivocal invocation of his right to silence. Though the test is an objective one, we also note that the investigator testified at the suppression hearing that he understood that Munson wanted to stop at that point, and that his subsequent questioning (despite Munsons request) was based on an incorrect understanding of a suspects right to silence the investigator believed that he had no duty to stop asking questions until a suspect asks to speak with a lawyer or actually does not answer questions. Moreover, the superior court made no express finding that Munsons request was equivocal. To the contrary, the courts comments at the suppression hearing strongly imply that Munsons request was unambiguous.23 Because we conclude that Munsons statement Well, Im done talkin then was an unambiguous request to terminate the interview, the question is not whether Munsons request was equivocal, but rather whether, in order for a suspect to validly invoke the right to silence, it must be clear that his reason for doing so is specifically motivated by a fear of self- incrimination. Because we find that Munsons request was unequivocal, we decline to address whether the police have an obligation to clarify an ambiguous invocation of the right to silence, and whether the dual prongs of Miranda24 are entitled to differing levels of protection. Instead, we focus on the core issue, which is whether Munson had a right to remain silent even if his unambiguous request to do so might have been motivated by immediate fear of a co-defendant. B. The Right to Silence Asserted by Munson Was Protected by Both the Federal and State Constitutions, Regardless of Munsons Subjective Fear of Retaliation. We turn to the question whether a statement by a suspect that he was done talkin is a valid invocation of the right to silence if it was not clearly motivated by fear of self- incrimination. If our answer is yes, then the police investigators were bound by Miranda and its progeny to respect that right; but if the request was not constitutionally- protected, then the investigators had no duty to stop the interrogation or to clarify Munsons intentions. We begin our analysis with the words of the Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution and article I, section nine of the Alaska Constitution, both of which guarantee that no person shall be compelled in any criminal [case or proceeding] to be a witness against himself. These simple words form the basis of a criminal defendants rights to counsel and to remain silent.25 While the core protection is a prohibition on compelling a defendant to testify against himself at trial,26 Miranda and our own cases under the Alaska Constitution show that this protection is enforceable in any setting where a suspect is subject to custodial police interrogation.27 Indeed, because such an interrogation is inherently coercive, Miranda laid down concrete constitutional guidelines, which include the requirement to give a defendant the four specific warnings that comprise his so-called Miranda rights.28 The failure to provide proper warnings or to obtain a waiver of those rights is generally sufficient to exclude any statements obtained.29 This rule-based approach establishes a bright-line standard for admissibility of confessions;30 and the litmus test is not only whether the suspect voluntarily made a statement,31 but whether his waiver of the right to silence or to counsel was knowing and intelligent.32 Although Mirandas requirements sweep beyond the literal protections of the Fifth Amendment,33 the U.S. Supreme Court has described Miranda as a constitutional rule.34 Miranda makes clear that a defendant can invoke his right to silence and end the interrogation in any manner, at any time prior to or during questioning.35 If a suspect in a custodial interrogation indicates in any manner and at any stage of the process that he wishes to consult with an attorney before speaking there can be no questioning. Likewise, if the individual is alone and indicates in any manner that he does not wish to be interrogated, the police may not question him. The mere fact that he may have answered some questions or volunteered some statements on his own does not deprive him of the right to refrain from answering any further inquiries . . .[36] Subsequent decisions by the U.S. Supreme Court have clarified the states duties when a suspect invokes his Fifth Amendment rights. A defendant has the right not only to cut off questioning entirely, but also to control the time at which questioning occurs, the subjects discussed, and the duration of the interrogation.37 Additionally, the police must scrupulously honor[] a suspects invocation of the right to silence.38 No ritualistic formula or talismanic phrase is essential in order to invoke the privilege against self- incrimination;39 all that is required to invoke Mirandas protections is a statement with sufficient clarity that a reasonable police officer in the circumstances would understand it to be an invocation of the suspects rights.40 To validly invoke the privilege, the suspect must face some hazard of incrimination, but this threshold requirement is met whenever the answers elicited could support a conviction or might furnish a link in the chain of evidence leading to a conviction.41 Thus, a proper invocation of the privilege against self- incrimination under Miranda requires only three things: a custodial interrogation,42 a statement that would reasonably be understood as an invocation of the privilege,43 and the clear possibility from the context of the interrogation that a responsive answer might be dangerous because injurious disclosure could result.44 Once a suspect makes an attempt to cut off questioning entirely,45 his request must be scrupulously honored.46 In the face of an unequivocal invocation of those rights, police interrogators have very limited discretion to inquire into the defendants subjective intent because they cannot, even to clarify a suspects intent, wear down his resistance and make him change his mind.47 These principles convince us that a suspect in a custodial interrogation can validly invoke his rights even if he may be motivated by a reason other than preventing self- incrimination.48 That is, so long as the suspects apparent motives do not cast genuine doubt on his desire to stop questioning entirely, then the issue of why he wants to do so is constitutionally irrelevant: the officer must scrupulously honor the suspects request. The bright line rules articulated by Miranda and its progeny exist precisely because it is inappropriate to require the police to make difficult judgment calls about a defendants underlying motivations for invoking his rights.49 It will not always be apparent whether a suspect is attempting to cut off questioning to prevent self-incrimination; or because he is emotional, tired, angry, confused, frightened, or overwhelmed; or because of a combination of reasons. And the cost of clarification is simply too great: Not only would inquiry into a suspects motivations prove a quagmire for police interrogators, but it would radically diminish Mirandas protections. Almost every invocation of the right to silence or to counsel could contain some ambiguity on the suspects motives. If the police were permitted to aggressively inquire into a suspects subjective intent for invoking the right, the suspect could well believe that his rights are illusory.50 While the context of Munsons statement suggests that he was more likely afraid of Sam Camanga than of incriminating himself, it was not for the interrogator to speculate about Munsons motives because the request itself was entirely unambiguous. The circumstances surrounding Munsons interrogation demonstrate that this approach provides the clearest possible guidance for applying the requirements of Miranda and Mosley during a custodial interrogation. The transcript of the interrogation shows just how relentless an interrogator can be when attempting to clarify a suspects invocation of his rights. From almost the moment Munsons interrogation began, he was told that invocation of his rights was irrelevant since the police already had evidence linking him to the crime, including the tape recording in which Munson acknowledged his presence when Gorsche was killed. After reading Munson his Miranda rights, but before seeking a waiver of those rights, Detective Hoffbeck laid out his case against Munson. [Interrogator]: Ok. Now having these [Miranda] rights in mind now I wanta ask you . . . I wanta tell you basically a couple of things that we . . . that we know about. [Munson]: Uhhuh. [Interrogator]: And then at the end of that there if you wanta talk to us you can talk to us, OK? [Interrogator describes the evidence the police have collected, including the incriminating tape of Munson discussing the crime with a co-defendant.] [Interrogator]: Ok? So we have all that information about you . . . the choice is up to you . . . you wanta talk to us about it? [Munson]: I have a question about that. What happens to me if I talk to you guys? [Interrogator]: Whether you talk to us or not, the same thing is gonna happen to ya. [Munson]: So if I dont say anything . . . the same thingll happen to me? . . . . So Im gonna go to jail? [Interrogator]: Of course, yes, youre going to go to jail. [Munson]: And it doesnt matter if I talk or anything? Right? At this point in the conversation, Detective Hoffbeck informed Munson that his cooperation could have an impact on how a judge approached sentencing, and he began to ask questions about the crime. Only when Munson began to answer his questions did the investigator ask if he was willing to speak with him. But when Munson attempted to revoke his waiver, and to assert his right to silence, Detective Hoffbeck again tried to convince him of the futility of remaining silent. [Munson]: Whats gonna happen? Is Sam gonna know Im saying this? [Investigator]: Maybe Sams already talked to me. [Munson]: No, but . . . [Investigator]: Eventually Sam is going to know, yes . . . the answer to that is yes. Everybody . . . everybody involved is going to know eventually . . . yes they will. [Munson]: Well, Im done talkin then. [Investigator]: Before you make a final decision on that there . . . play that tape there for him . . . . [Tape playing in which Munson acknowledges that he was present when Gorsche was killed.] [Investigator]: Youve already said it . . . [Munson]: I know but . . . [Investigator]: So whats the point? Youve already said it so . . . Although the state conceded below that a defendant can invoke his right to silence for any reason even a whim and the police must respect his decision, the state nonetheless maintains that Munson never invoked his constitutional rights because his request was motivated by a fear of Sam Camanga and, thus, equivocal.51 The state argued below that the investigator clarified Munsons equivocal request by playing the recording of his incriminating discussion with a co-defendant, and that Munsons later confession demonstrated that his concerns were allayed and his statements were voluntary. But the overall impact of the investigators comments, as well as his specific response to Munsons request to terminate the interrogation, demonstrate the inherently coercive nature of a custodial interrogation and reinforce the need for clear standards to govern an interrogators conduct in the face of a suspects invocation of his Miranda rights. While it is the centerpiece of the states position that Munsons request was equivocal, it is clear that Detective Hoffbeck understood that Munson was trying to cut off questioning entirely. Indeed, in his suppression hearing testimony, the investigator never claimed confusion or uncertainty concerning Munsons desire to stop the interrogation.52 Yet instead of scrupulously honoring what literally was a present-tense, unequivocal, unconditional attempt to cut off all further questioning, the investigator brushed off Munsons decision and insisted that Munson needed to make yet another decision a final decision: Before you make a final decision on that there . . . play that tape there for him . . . . The investigator then set in motion a prepared playback of a surreptitiously recorded conversation between Munson and a police informant; the playback was apparently intended to persuade Munson that his decision was wrong: that he might as well talk because the police had already secretly recorded him, he was already exposed, and in the investigators opinion he didnt need to be afraid in any event. By the standard established in Rhode Island v. Innis, the investigators tactic unquestionably amounted to further interrogation.53 The court of appeals seems to have assumed that Munsons desire to cut off questioning became equivocal because he evidently acted for a specific reason other than the one specified by the constitution: avoiding self-incrimination. Yet this tacit premise does not hold up to scrutiny. Under Miranda, a defendant like Munson does not need to radiate constitutionally pure motives; he just needs to make a clear attempt to stop questioning entirely. If his apparent motives do not cast genuine doubt on what he wants (that is, to stop questioning entirely), then the issue of why he wants it is constitutionally irrelevant: the officer must scrupulously honor the defendants clear attempt to cut off questioning entirely.54 To be sure, a defendant may not assert the right to silence when the privilege against self-incrimination does not attach to the questioning. But for purposes of determining whether the privilege attaches, our case law requires us to pose a situation-specific, not a motive-specific, question. We do not inquire what reasons prompt the defendants refusal to speak; we simply ask whether the states questions present a real risk of incrimination: To establish a Fifth Amendment claim, parties invoking the privilege have the burden of demonstrating a valid reason to believe that their compelled statements might incriminate them. This burden is not great: To sustain the privilege, it need only be evident from the implications of the question, in the setting in which it is asked, that a responsive answer to the question or an explanation of why it cannot be answered might be dangerous because injurious disclosure could result.[55] Miranda itself recognizes that custodial interrogation inherently poses a sufficient danger of incrimination to sustain the privilege. Here, Munson was subjected to custodial interrogation and was read his Miranda rights. Because the interrogation certainly placed him at risk of self-incrimination, the privilege unquestionably attached. He had a right to invoke it by expressing a clear desire to cut off the interrogation entirely, regardless of his subjective intent in doing so. Of course Munsons apparent motives would have been relevant if the totality of circumstances surrounding the interrogation, including his apparent motives, cast genuine doubt on his desire to stop the questioning completely. LaFave recognizes that sometimes, [d]epending on the surrounding circumstances, even a statement which itself appears to amount to an assertion of the right to remain silent (e.g., I aint saying nothing) may be held to [be ambiguous or equivocal].56 But as LaFave indicates, the ambiguity in these situations must arise from contextual circumstances suggesting that the defendants reluctance is much more limited than wanting to stop the interrogation entirely.57 Hence, if Munsons apparent fear, combined with other relevant circumstances, created a reasonable appearance that his categorical announcement that he was done talkin was merely a tentative decision or that it was fleeting, conditional, or even concealed a true desire to be questioned then certainly his attempt to cut off questioning might fairly be characterized as ambiguous or equivocal. But here, as already noted, the circumstances hardly lend themselves to this characterization: Munsons announcement itself unequivocally and unconditionally declared his decision to cut off questioning; and the surrounding circumstances, including Munsons apparent motive for stopping, left little room for confusion. As noted, the investigator never claimed that he saw anything equivocal, ambiguous, or conditional about Munsons desire to stop questioning entirely. He understood that Munson wished to stop the questioning58 but erroneously thought that he was free to press on despite Munsons wishes unless and until Munson formally invoked his Miranda rights by either asking for counsel or by refusing to continue talking.59 Nothing in the circumstances surrounding Munsons declaration, in Munsons apparent motives for making the declaration, or in the declaration itself gave the investigator any reasonable basis to think that Munson was not making a final decision or that he was trying to do anything other than what he expressly declared that he wanted to do to cut off the questioning entirely. At this point, Miranda and Mosley required the investigator to scrupulously honor the request, and precluded him from simply pressing on with his interrogation. The investigators determination to ignore Munsons request seems particularly unreasonable when considered in light of the approach used in the interrogation leading up to Munsons request. The investigator began the interrogation by reading Munson his Miranda rights and asking if he understood them. But instead of asking immediately whether Munson wanted to invoke these rights, the investigator purposely delayed this question, saying that Munson would receive the opportunity to invoke his rights later, after the investigator provided some additional information. He then began to give Munson information that by any objective measure was bound to encourage cooperation, engage him in discussion, and produce incriminating statements. The additional information also created a considerable gap between the reading of Munsons rights and his opportunity to invoke them. In conducting the balance of the interview, the investigator believed Miranda required him to stop the interrogation only if Munson actually refused to talk or expressly invoked his right to counsel; on appeal, however, the state takes a different position. Despite the gap between the reading of Munsons Miranda rights and his first opportunity to assert them, the state now contends that Munson could invoke his rights only by making a demand to stop talking that clearly drew a connection between his desire to stop and his by-then-distantly read rights. But this position would allow the competitive enterprise of custodial interrogation to be carried a step too far. Viewed against this backdrop, the investigators perfunctory dismissal of the clear and unequivocal attempt to cut of all further questioning, and his insistence on a new round of interrogation before allowing a final decision, could easily have convinced Munson that the investigator was determined to keep pressing his interrogation and was bound to deny Mirandas critical safeguard: Munsons ability to control the time at which questioning occurs, the subjects discussed, and the duration of the interrogation.60 Upon hearing the demand for a final decision, any reasonable person in Munsons position would have recognized that his Miranda rights were merely illusory because the investigator had seized full control. Miranda exists to protect the rights of the criminally- accused in precisely these situations. An interrogator cannot try to convince a suspect that his silence is futile; the police cannot fail to honor a suspects request by refusing to discontinue the interrogation . . . or by persisting in repeated efforts to wear down his resistance and make him change his mind.61 Nor, as the prosecutor implied below, can Munsons confession be deemed voluntary by the fact that he continued to speak with the interrogators after the tape was played. As the U.S. Supreme Court has emphasized: Using an accuseds subsequent responses to cast doubt on the adequacy of the initial request itself is . . . intolerable. No authority, and no logic, permits the interrogator to proceed . . . on his own terms and as if the defendant had requested nothing, in the hope that the defendant might be induced to say something casting retrospective doubt on his initial statement that he wished to speak through an attorney or not at all. [62] That Munson continued to talk with the interrogator in the face of continued questioning does not diminish the validity of his request. Munsons constitutionally-protected right to silence attached as soon as he said Im done talkin, and at that point the interrogator was bound to scrupulously honor Munsons request. Such bright-line rules exist both to protect the accused as well as to provide clear standards to guide law enforcement officers and the courts. The Sixth Circuit reached a similar conclusion in McGraw v. Holland.63 Tina McGraw was sixteen years old when she was charged as an accomplice to a rape.64 In response to a police interrogators questions, she stated: I dont want to talk about it, and she indicated that her reason for not wanting to discuss the crime was because she didnt want to walk the streets and get[] shot and killed for tellin. 65 The Sixth Circuit suppressed the resulting confession in part because it found no support, either in logic or in law, for the proposition that an otherwise unambiguous expression of a desire to remain silent can somehow become ambiguous if prompted by a fear of retaliation.66 That the defendants fear was so apparent should have made it even more clear that she really did not want to talk about the rape.67 We agree with the Sixth Circuit that an otherwise unambiguous invocation of the right to remain silent does not become ineffective merely because it appears to be motivated by fear of retaliation. V. CONCLUSION Because Paul Munson unambiguously invoked his right to remain silent, and because the police interrogator failed to scrupulously honor this request, we conclude that Munsons subsequent confession to the crime must be suppressed. Accordingly, we REVERSE the judgment of the court of appeals and REINSTATE the judgment of the superior court. Statement of: HOMICIDE S-PAUL MUNSON Q = DETECTIVE HOFFBECK D = DETECTIVE PARKER A - PAUL MUNSON Q. This is on file #99-46526. Todays date is September the 15th, 1999. This is DETECTIVE HOFFBECK and DETECTIVE PARKER in Portland, Oregon, the time now is uh... approximately ... and uh.. the time, local time is approximately 7:30 p.m. and Ill be talking to Paul MUNSON in just a moment. UM. _________ Q. Thanks. UM. ______________ Q. OK.. Paul let me introduce myself to you. A. OK Q. Im DETECTIVE HOFFBECK .. Anchorage Police Department .. A. Hi. Q. This is DETECTIVE PARKER. Anchorage Police Department.. D. Same place.. A. Oh your mister.. Dave PARKER? Oh yeah.. Q. Paul you saw theres a tape recorder there running? A. Uhhuh. Q. And uh youve been arrested.. let me see a copy of that uh warrant over there please.. you were arrested over at the Viking Hotel here uh... oh probly about an hour or so ago now, cause the time now is .. I got about Uh 20 minutes to 8 Portland time. Gonna show you an arrest warrant for your arrest, Paul.. are you Paul MUNSON, date of birth of 12-21 of 81? A. Uhhuh. Q. OK. Read English are you Paul? A. Yeah. Q. OK. Let that read there for ya ... A. Murder one.. Q. Conspiracy to commit murder one. A. Yeah. Q. OK. So basically uh youre charged with murder in the first degree and conspiracy to commit murder in the first degree. Your bail is set at $500,000 cash only. And defendant may not be released until court approves a third party custody. This is an Alaska warrant. Obviously you know were not in the State of Alaska. A. Uhhuh. Q. Were in the sate of Wash.. or Oregon. OK? We have to follow not only Alaska laws, but the Oregon laws, OK? A. Uhhuh. Q. But the first thing is since youre in this room.. uh that just indicates in our computer that youre mother reported you as a runaway also. Paul, I want to uh, I wanta talk to you about some things. A. Uhhuh. Q. I wanta talk to you about the homicide that took place up in Anchorage, is what I wanta talk to you about. Before I can talk to you about anything.. ______ youre well aware of what I have to do. I have to read you your Constitutional Rights. A. Yeah.. Yeah.. Q. That there. Im gonna read those there to you in a few minutes here.. but before .. when I get finished here even.. before you even start to say anything at all.. theres a couple of things I wanta say to you before.. before that goes on there, OK? OK.. You have the right to remain silent, do you understand that? Paul? A. Yes. Q. OK. Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law, you understand that? A. Uhhuh. Q. You do? A. Yeah. Q. OK. Now the tape recorder doesnt pick up some times when you nod so.. A. Oh OK. Q. So if you say it, Id appreciate it .. A. Huh.. Q. You have the right to talk to a lawyer and have him present with you while youre being questioned if you under. Do you understand that? A. Yes. Q. OK. if you cannot afford to hire a lawyer, one will be appointed to represent you before any questioning if you wish one, do you understand that? A. Yeah. Q. OK. Now keep in mind here, all these questions. If you have any questions about any of these here, please ask me about em, OK? A. OK. Q. You can decide at any time to exercise these rights and not answer any questions or make any statements. A. Yeah I know.. Q. You understand .. you understand that? A. I .. uh uh(?) Q. OK. Do you understand each of these rights as Ive explained them to you? A. Yes... Q. OK. Now having these rights in mind now I wanta ask you... I wanta tell you basically a couple things that we.. that we know about. A. Uhhuh. Q. And then at the end of that there if you wanta talk to us you can talk to us, OK? One..let me lay out some .. Just some basic, basic things to you..Im not gonna tell you everything that I have right now ... and I think you probly know a lot of the things I do already have. First of all I have your car in custody. That was the car that was used to transport Wolfie out to Eklutna. OK? Weve already search the car and we found a ton of evidence already in that car. Weve already located the shell casing that was found out there, and weve matched it up to the gun that your friend, Sam used to shoot him with, alright? Weve already done all those type of things. Weve already got statements from uh.. weve got statements from Bryan, course you already knew that there. And weve also got statements from somebody else, and Ill let you hear about those in just a few minutes here, OK? A. Nn. Q. And on those statements there that Im gonna let you hear, youre gonna hear you own voice on there, because we were listening to all your phone calls.. A. Ahh. Q. OK? So we have all that information about you.. the choice is up to you.. you wanta talk to us about it? A. I have a question about that? What happens to me if I talk to you guys? Q. Whether you talk to us or not, the same thing is gonna happen to ya. A. So if I dont say anything.. the same thingll happen to me? Q. Well, lets put it this way here Paul ... when we are finished speaking, whenever that is.. whether its in 5 minutes or if its in a half hour or whenever it is, youre going to go to a uh.. a juvenile facility here in.. in Oregon. A. Uhhuh. Q. And then tomorrow youre probly... I think the Oregon law is that youre goin be brought before some type of a hearing at that time.. to find out how you wanta go back to Alaska. Whether youre going to volunteer to go back to Alaska or be extradited to go back to Alaska. A. Uhhuh. Q. And then youll be.. once those hearings are over and if its granted then youll be taken back to Alaska at that particular time. A. So whatll happen to me in Alaska? Q. Youll be held accountable to answer to those charges of murder in the first degree and whats the other one there uh.. D. Conspiracy to commit murder.. Q. And uh conspiracy to commit murder in the first degree.. youre going to be held accountable for those.. if.. youre charged with those. A. So Im gonna go to jail? Q. Of course, yes, youre going to go to jail. A. And it doesnt matter if I talk or anything? Right? Q. Well that.. thats up to you yknow ... its really up to you.. let me give you kind of a uh.. of a scenario about something here.. now keep in mind when I read there, no promises or threats are being made to you here... if you were sitting up on a bench and a judge _______ right? A. Uhhuh. Q. This is just a thought here, if you were sitting up there, and you had two people come in front of you.. one was being cooperative and the other one wasnt.. how would you feel about that? A. Uh.. Id wanta be the cooperative one.. Q. Im not tellin you what to do. A. I.. I know but I ... see.. Q. And I wanta ask you some questions about what happened out there that night. Why.. actually I wanta know why in the world you of all people, went out there with em.. it befuddles me to know that there.. I can understand why the other ones went out there, but Id like to hear what you got to say about it. And only you can tell me about that. No one else can read your mind, but thats your choice.. maybe its a simple answer, maybe its a complicated answer. Maybe you think its something to do with your home life. Maybe its something to do, you got caught up with that night.. yknow? I dont know.. I dont know.. Show you a list of names, Im sure you could recognize a lot of those names.. Those are the names of the people weve already talked to.. You wanta look at that again? A. Yeah. Is this all of em? Q. No, that aint all of em.. Thats just the list that Im.. showing you right there at this time.. why did you go out there that night? Somebody threaten you to go out there? A. No. I dont know why we went out there.. Q. Maybe you dont know why we went out there, but why did you go out there? A. Why did I go out there? Q. Yeah. A. Cause I had the car. Q. Your car.. A. That was it.. Q. Now earlier in the night.. you willin to have this conversation with me? A. Uhhuh. Q. OK. Thats a yes, right? A. Yes.. Q. OK. Earlier on in the day time when you guys were drivin around, you and Sammy and uh.. and Shane, Bryan, Jack ... drivin around uh.. the subject of killin Wolfie came up many times.. even went over and met the niece. The little girl that was molested. The subject of uh mutilating Wolfies hands and uh cutting his fingers off.. murdering him.. A. I didnt say one thing.. Q. Well, I dont know, you tell me what happened .. I wasnt in the car. I wasnt in the car Paul. DETECTIVE PARKER wasnt in that car .. its.. how old are you now? A. Seventeen Q. Youll be 18 .. uh.. December? A. Yeah Q. You got a long..long life ahead of you.. where you spend it ats.. I dont know where youre gonna spend it at.. the .. the manner of... what went on in the car there and the conversations that took place out at.. uh.. out at Point Woronzof and the apartments up in uh.. your apartment up in Mt. View.. A. Uhhuh. Q. Um, Id like to hear em.. A. What do you want know? Q. Well, its your story.. why dont you start at the beginning of it and tell me the story.. A. Well.. Q. How about.. how about when you first .. did you ever go, do you know uh, do you know these people? do you know uh.. A. Know everybody on the _______ sheet. Q. Huh? A. I said I know everybody on the _____ sheet.. Q. On this uh yellow sheet theres a Cherylin MITCHELL, Joanna PFEIFER uh Lynette.. Brandi. A. Uhhuh. Q. Uh Jack RUTHERFORD, Bryan RUTHERFORD .. Souvang, Khamkeo.. Sommith, Paul of course, and Sam. You know all those names? A. Yeah. Q. Tell me how you uh.. how you got to know uh Sam? Lets start with that one there? A. Uh.. me and Shane met him at a party.. and he.. he was.. he was uh.. uh.. I guess .. cousins of whatever with Eddie.. the other roommate. Q. Yeah. A. And then he became our roommate, and thats how we _________ Q. Where were you living at the time uh.. Paul? A. My house.. Q. And thats over there in uh Jewel Lake? A. Yeah. Q. You and your mom? A. Yeah. Q. Anybody else living there with you? A. Huh-uh Q. You had your own car at that time? A. Yeah. Q. What kinda car did you have? A. Honda Civic Q. You by chance remember the license number of it? A. No, I have no clue. Q. OK. Is that uh.. what year is it? A. 90. Q. What color is it? A. Black, four door sedan. Q. OK. You call it black? A. Uhhuh. .. Or gray or.. Q. Yeah.. with a .. yeah.. would it surprise you the registration says gray on it? A. Yeah. Q. OK. Wheres that car.. where do you think the car is at now? I just told you where its at.. but where did you think it was at? A. Well I knew it got impounded.. because I got pulled over with it. Q. Right, your mom had it moved to some place and then it was taken some place else.. A. Yeah I . .when she.. Q. Then the police.. A. The last time I saw it was at Polaris.. Q. OK. A. That was the last time I saw it.. So I .. Q. And that was.. when was that? A. Oh I dont know.. Q. That was the night after the murder wasnt it? A. Nn-nn(Negative) .. no it wasnt. Q. It was about 1:15 in the morning the following night.. is when it was..your car broke down there and uh two patrol officers came by and ... I think they gave you a citation for curfew and took you home? A. Huh-uh.. they didnt give me a curfew ticket. Q. They didnt give you one? OK.. Thank you for clearin that up, I was under the impression you did.. gave you a ride home though did they? A. Uhhuh. Q. OK.. so then thats how you met Sam, right? A. Yeah.. ___________ Q. Do you remember when that was? A. N, I had..not good with dates. I dont know. Q. Give me, give me approximation, do you? Approximately when it was? Im not gonna hold you to the date on that.. A. I dont know, like a month. Q. So maybe this is the ... 15th of um... September .. so .. more than a month ago now? A. Yeah. .more. .more than a month. Q. Like first part of August or.. A. I guess.. I dont.. Q. Would that be about right though? A. I dont know.. well it was before school started.. Q. Well that was the end of uh.. end of August so.. A. I know.. before school. Q. Did you.. so then you eventually you moved over to the .. A. No, I was always there.. I .. .I always been over there, like every.. before he was there.. Q. Before Sam moved in? A. Oh yeah.. I was there all the time. Q. You and uh Shane and uh.. A. Yeah.. thats how.. Q. And Eddie? A. Me and Shane were there together. Q. Uhhuh. .. want some water? A. No, no thanks. Q. OK. A. Thats how we got there.. Q. OK. What um.. when did the gun start showin up? After Sam showed up? A. Well.. I .. Q. Or were they there.. or were they there before that.. before Sam showed up? A. There was none there before.. I ... they.. they kept on say that there was guns in the house yknow.. and theyd(?) fire em, but there never was, cause me and Shane tried to check yknow where they were.. where he said they were. Q. Uhhuh. A. But I dont.. the first time I saw em was uh... cant remember ... First time I sawem was... we were outside, outside the apartment.. it was Shawn(?) Q. Is that when one of the drive-bys came by or suum.. and the shooting started? A. No, that was . .that was just.. it was just the first time.. that Vi came over and there and they were.. Q. Who brought em over? A. Sam Q. Sam brought em over? How many did he bring over that time? A. What? Q. Guns.. A. I saw one.. Q. What uh.. what was that? A. Think it was the 9 mm .. or was .45, I dont know. Q. Well, both of those type show up there so.. which one is the first one, do you remember? A. I think it was the .45. Q. .45? A. Uhhuh. Whats gonna happen? Is Sam gonna know what Im saying this? Q. Maybe Sams already talked to me. A. No, but.. Q. Eventually Sam is going to know, yes.. the answer to that is yes. Everybody.. everybody involved is going to know eventually.. yes they will. A. Well, Im done talkin then. Q. Before you make a final decision on that there.. play that tape there for him.. A. You know whatll happen to me. Q. Listen to this here... not what you think is going to.. Tape playing within a tape: UM. ___________ I dont know dude.. uh dude. UM. Alright I ... I have some questions I have, because Im just trippin about this whole thing.. did you see Wolfies freakin head explode when Sam shot him? UM. Yeah. UM. You did? UM. Uhhuh UM. Because Im just.. cause I .. I looked away and I looked up at Bryan and Im just tryin to figure out whats happenin and everything.. UM. So you didnt see _________ there? UM. No. UM. I was watchin _______ the whole time. UM. You were watchin? UM. I was there.. yeah I watched the whole thing. I wasnt too far away.. UM. You were like pretty close to Sam huh? UM. ___________ Yeah.. when whend you dream about dude? UM. Just about. Q. Youve already said it.. A. I know but.. Q. So whats the point? Youve already said it so.. A. You dont.. you dont understand ... Q. What do I dont understand? A. All those people. Q. What do you think? What do you think that I dont understand .. A. You dont.. Q. No, no.. youve got something in the back of your mind that you think youve magnified.. Sam has got you runnin scared about something .. you think is going to happen.. Im tellin ya.. you think is gonna happen.. let me tell you suum whats really gonna happen. nothins gonna happen.. Aint a dang thing gonna happen. A. How do you know that? Q. I been doin this for about 30 years. A. Uhhuh. Q. Right? Its never happened .. it dont happen.. only in your figment of your imagination does it happen. Because .. and you know why.. they do this.. people like Sam.. say that there.. to keep you quiet, thats the only reason.. Cause when we get finished with talkin with Sam.. again here when we talk to Sam and some more of these.. A. So have you already talked to Sam? Q. Ive talked to Sam.. A. Can I hear his tape? Q. No.. Sams not gonna hear your tape tonight either. No hes not... next time you see Sam will be somewhere in some hearing Alaska.. You have no reasons at all, because every one of these people turn around and they all try to do the best thing for themselves.. A. Let me ask you a question. Q. You can ask any question you want.. A. You guys have Shane, right? Q. You bet. A. I thought so. Q. You wanta ask some more questions and Ill tell you the truth too, Im not gonna lie to anybody.. do I have Bryan? You bet. A. Oh I know you guys have Bryan.. Q. Do you wanta ask some more questions? A. Is he in Fairbanks? Q. Im aint gonna tell you where hes at.. A. No, I just.. I just.. Q. But the answer to thats no. A. So you guys are the ones that had Shane call us.. Hnn.. yeah.. Q. Probly did. Does that make Shane a bad person? A. No it dont.. I ... I.. Q. Shane goin in farther than you are.. A. Why? Q. Shanes charged more than you are. A. So Im the lightest? Q. Yeah. Youre the light. youre the light weight of this bunch. A. Whats Shane and Bryan have? Q. Bryans idea, wasnt it? A. Yeah.. Q. Yeah.. it was his idea to do all this stuff. A. _____________ Q. Shane was packin a gun that night and he drove the car.. and as far as I know about Paul, he just provided the car.. A. Yeah. Q. Right? A. Uhhuh. Thats it. Q. Thats it.. so whatd it sound like when you got out there? A. What did what sound like? Q. Whatd Wolfie have to say before he got shot? What was goin . . . what was the conversation in the car out there, goin out there? A. Nothin. . it was just me and Shane and I wasnt really payin attention . . . in the back. I was in the passenger seat. . we were smokin weed. [Transcript of interrogation continues for 54 pages.] MATTHEWS, Justice, dissenting. For the reasons expressed by the court of appeals I believe that Munsons statement should not be suppressed. Because the court of appeals opinion has not been published, I attach it as an appendix. I have the following additional observations. When Munson made his statement Well Im done talkin then it was obvious that he was afraid of reprisals by his accomplices. Officer Hoffbeck cautioned Munson to listen before making a final decision to cut off the interview. Hoffbeck then played a tape of a conversation between Munson and another person that confirmed Munsons presence at the murder. After playing the tape, Hoffbeck told Munson that his fear of reprisals was unrealistic, based both on Hoffbecks long experience as an investigator and the fact that all the actors were in custody. Munson seemed to have been persuaded, asked a few questions about the other participants in the crime, and permitted the interview to continue. On a common-sense level, what Hoffbeck did seems reasonable. It was responsive to Munsons concerns1 and not coercive, hostile, or repetitive. It did not suggest that Munson was not free to refuse to speak further about the crime. Because all of this seems to me to be beyond dispute, I have a hard time accepting my colleagues conclusion that Munsons Miranda rights were violated.2 To put the matter in a legal framework, it seems to me that Munsons statement was an equivocal assertion of his Miranda right to silence that the police were not required to understand as terminating the interrogation. As the courts opinion acknowledges, the general rule is that a suspect must articulate his desire to cut off questioning with sufficient clarity that a reasonable police officer in the circumstances would understand it to be an invocation of the suspects rights; equivocal or ambiguous assertions are not enough.3 This standard was initially developed in Davis v. United States to evaluate ambiguous assertions of the right to counsel by suspects undergoing station-house interrogation.4 According to Davis, if a suspect makes a reference to an attorney that is ambiguous or equivocal in that a reasonable officer in light of the circumstances would have understood only that the suspect might be invoking the right to counsel, our precedents do not require the cessation of questioning.5 The United States Supreme Court has not said whether Davis applies to the Miranda right to silence, but several federal courts have applied Davis in this context, and I agree with todays opinion that this is the proper approach here.6 The standard is objective, and requires consideration of all the circumstances surrounding the declaration to determine its meaning.7 Further, whether a statement is an objectively unambiguous assertion of a Miranda right is a question of law for the reviewing court, at least where (as here) there is no dispute as to the underlying historical facts.8 These legal principles are consistent with Alaska precedent,9 and appear to be common ground between me and the opinion of the court. But we part company with respect to the courts treatment of Munsons statement Im done talkin then, in particular as to the issue of whether it is proper to consider Munsons reasons for making this statement. Miranda was devised in order to implement in a police interrogation setting the right not to be a witness against oneself and the right to counsel. But a suspect may refuse to speak for any number of reasons having nothing to do with these rights emotions such as fear of reprisals, anger, hostility, and distrust may underlie a refusal to speak. Refusals based on emotions such as these, if persisted in, must be honored,10 but when initially made they are often properly regarded as only ambiguous or equivocal assertions of the right to silence.11 A signal that the speaker would like to stop talking can appear unambiguous in form, yet the context can make it reasonable to understand the statement as something less than a clear invocation of the right to silence. Depending upon the surrounding circumstances, even a statement which itself appears to amount to an assertion of the right to remain silent (e.g., I aint saying nothing) may be held not to have that effect.12 For example, a statement that seems like a simple request to stop the interrogation may be legitimately understood as merely expressing an objection to some aspect of the interrogation, such as an objection to the person conducting the interrogation or the use of a tape recorder.13 Or refusals to continue speaking that are based on emotional or practical objections such as fear of reprisals or anger at the way the interrogation has proceeded that have nothing to do with fear of incrimination can properly be viewed as temporary or provisional. In these situations the speakers motive is relevant, and courts have refused to find a clear invocation of the right to silence.14 I do not question that a suspect can assert a right to silence in a police interrogation context when the suspect is motivated by a fear of reprisals, or even where the suspect has no articulable reason at all for keeping silent. But I do think that, where the suspects reluctance to speak is plainly based on concerns unrelated to self-incrimination, and where these concerns might be met by the police in a way that does not overpower or belittle the suspects fundamental right to silence, the suspects initial objection to speaking should not normally be understood as an unambiguous assertion of the right to silence sufficient to cut off further inquiry.15 The key is that police attempts to meet the objection (until and unless they are met with a clear indication that the suspect is hostile or indifferent to these attempts) have little potential to suggest that the right against self-incrimination is illusory. This case is an illustration of the foregoing. Munson was given a Miranda warning and was willing to waive these rights. What caused him to make his done talkin then statement was unrelated to these rights. In context a fuller expression of what he said would be Well Im done talkin then because I am afraid that if I do talk I will be killed by Camanga. Since Munsons statement implies a continued willingness to talk if the fear motivating the refusal could be put to rest, I believe the statement should be construed as a merely equivocal invocation of the right to silence.16 Put in Davis terms, given the turn the interrogation had taken when Munson said he was done talking, a reasonable officer in light of the circumstances would have understood only that the suspect might be invoking his right against self-incrimination, as opposed to the clear and unambiguous invocation required to shut down all questioning.17 Once a statement is found to be equivocal, all that should ultimately be required in response to it is noncoercive conduct that does not imply that the right to silence has been lost and may no longer be exercised.18 That test too would be readily met in the present case. For these reasons I would affirm the decision of the court of appeals. NOTICE Memorandum decisions of this court do not create legal precedent. See Alaska Appellate Rule 214(d) and Paragraph 7 of the Guidelines for Publication of Court of Appeals Decisions (Court of Appeals Order No. 3). Accordingly, this memorandum decision may not be cited for any proposition of law, nor as an example of the proper resolution of any issue. IN THE COURT OF APPEALS OF THE STATE OF ALASKA STATE OF ALASKA, ) ) Court of Appeals No. A- 7694 Petitioner, ) Trial Court No. 3AN-S99-7945 CR ) ) v. ) ) PAUL DAVID MUNSON, ) ) Respondent. ) ) PAUL DAVID MUNSON, ) ) Court of Appeals No. A- 7723 Petitioner, ) Trial Court No. 3AN-S99-7945 CR ) ) v. ) MEMORANDUM OPINION ) STATE OF ALASKA, ) AND JUDGMENT ) Respondent. ) [No. 4494 November 21, 2001] ) Appeal from the Superior Court, Third Judi cial District, Anchorage, Michael L. Wolverton, Judge. Appearances: W. H. Hawley, Jr., Assistant Attorney General, Office of Special Prosecutions and Appeals, Anchorage, and Bruce M. Botelho, Attorney General, Juneau, for Petitioner and Respondent State of Alaska. Cynthia L. Strout, Anchorage, for Respondent and Petitioner Paul David Munson. Before: Coats, Chief Judge, and Mannheimer and Stewart, Judges. STEWART, Judge. The superior court found that Paul David Munson made an equivocal statement about his right to silence during a custodial interview with the police. The court suppressed the remainder of Munsons statement because the police did not clarify Munsons intent. We granted the States petition for review of that order. Because case law provides that the police have no obligation to clarify an equivocal statement about the right to silence during custodial interrogation, we reverse the order of the superior court suppressing a portion of Munsons statement. We also granted Munsons petition for review of the courts order that rejected his claim that his statement to the police was involuntary. We uphold that order because we conclude, as did the superior court, that Munsons statement was voluntary. Facts and proceedings On September 14, 1999, the State charged Munson, Samuel J. Camanga, Shane M. Clapper, and a juvenile for the September 1, 1999, homicide of Morgan F. Gorsche. On September 15, 1999, Anchorage Police Detectives Joseph Hoffbeck and David Parker flew to Portland, Oregon, to arrest Munson. After Munsons arrest, Hoffbeck and Parker met with Munson at a Portland police station and tape recorded their interview. Detective Hoffbeck advised Munson of his Miranda rights.1 Munson stated that he understood those rights. During the interview, Munson admitted that he was involved in Gorsches homicide. The grand jury indicted Munson and his cohorts for first-degree murder,2 conspiracy to commit first-degree murder,3 and second-degree murder4 for the shooting death of Gorsche. Munson moved to suppress his statement to the police, claiming he had invoked his right to silence during the interview. Munson also contended that his statement to the police was involuntary because the police threatened him in order to induce him to waive his rights and confess. Superior Court Judge Michael L. Wolverton concluded that the police should have clarified Munsons ambiguous invocation of his right to silence Well, Im done talkin then. Because the police did not clarify that statement but continued to interview Munson, Judge Wolverton suppressed all of Munsons interview that followed that statement. Judge Wolverton rejected Munsons claim that he had been threatened and concluded that Munsons statement was voluntary. Discussion Did the police threaten Munson such that his statement was involuntary? Detectives Hoffbeck and Parker met with Munson in a conference room at the Portland police station after Munsons arrest. Detective Hoffbeck informed Munson that he had been charged with first-degree murder and conspiracy to commit murder and that his bail had been set at $500,000. Hoffbeck advised Munson of his Miranda rights and asked if he understood each of them. He then detailed the evidence that connected Munson to Gorsches murder: evidence recovered from Munsons car (which was used to transport Gorsche to Eklutna where he was killed); a shell casing that matched Camangas gun; a statement from B.R., a juvenile participant in the crime; and a statement from an undisclosed witness, which turned out to be a recorded phone conversation of Munsons. Detective Hoffbeck continued: Hoffbeck: OK? So we have all that information about you ... the choice is up to you ... you wanta talk to us about it? Munson: I have a question about that? What happens to me if I talk to you guys? Hoffbeck: Whether you talk to us or not, the same thing is gonna happen to ya. Munson: So if I dont say anything ... the same thingll happen to me? Hoffbeck: Well, lets put it this way here Paul ... when we are finished speaking, whenever that is ... whether its in 5 minutes or if its in a half hour or whenever it is, youre going to go to a uh ... a juvenile facility here in ... in Oregon. Munson: Uhhuh. Hoffbeck: And then tomorrow youre probly ... I think the Oregon law is that youre goin [to] be brought before some type of a hearing at that time to ... to find out how you wanta go back to Alaska. Whether youre going to volunteer to go back to Alaska or be extradited to go back to Alaska. Munson: Uhhuh. Hoffbeck: And then youll be ... once those hearings are over and if its granted then youll be taken back to Alaska at that particular time. Munson: So whatll happen to me in Alaska? Hoffbeck: Youll be held accountable to answer to those charges of murder in the first degree and whats the other one there uh ... Detective Parker: Conspiracy to commit murder ... Hoffbeck: And uh conspiracy to commit murder in the first degree ... youre going to be held accountable for those ... if ... youre charged with those. Munson: So Im gonna go to jail? Hoffbeck: Of course, yes, youre going to go to jail. Munson: And it doesnt matter if I talk or anything? Right? Hoffbeck: Well that ... thats up to you yknow ... its really up to you ... let me give you kind of a uh ... of a scenario about something here ... now keep in mind when I read there, no promises or threats are being made to you here ... if you were sitting up on a bench and a judge ___ right? Munson: Uhhuh. Hoffbeck: This is just a thought here, if you were sitting up there, and you had two people come in front of you ... one was being cooperative and the other one wasnt ... how would you feel about that? Munson: Uh ... Id wanta be the cooperative one ... Hoffbeck: Im not tellin you what to do. Munson: I ... I know but I ... see ... The discussion continued, and Munson described the homicide and his participation in it. Judge Wolverton found that Detective Hoffbeck had been candid in his testimony and that his demeanor and approach during the custodial interrogation of Munson had not been threatening or coercive. He concluded that Munsons confession was voluntary: I simply have to find under the circumstances of this case that the scenario presented by Officer Hoffbeck was nonthreatening and didnt overbear Mr. Munsons will. I just dont think it did. And I understand that the Supreme Court may disagree with me as a legal matter, but as it was posed, this is the problem that I have with it. ...[I]ts one thing to say ... if you dont cooperate ... youre going to get harsh treatment, so you dont have to talk if you dont want to, but boy, youre going to get treated harsher, as opposed to this instance. And I really think this is the truth of the matter, that Mr. Munson asked an honest question, and ... [got] an honest answer. Munson contends that the scenario described by Detective Hoffbeck was a threat. Munson argues that because the scenario was a threat, the superior court should have applied the presumption from Beavers v. State5 that any statement induced by a threat is involuntary.6 In Beavers, two state troopers questioned Beavers in a police vehicle outside the restaurant where Beavers worked.7 Beavers was sixteen years old at the time.8 The troopers told Beavers that he was not under arrest, had not been charged with a crime, and was free to end the interview at any time.9 While questioning Beavers about his involvement in several robberies, one of the troopers emphasized the importance of Beavers cooperating and telling the truth.10 The trooper said: I know that when youre young, you do some stupid stuff, make a, make a wrong turn somewhere, okay. And, and you do some crazy stuff, okay? But, if youre, if you try and hide it from me youre really going to get hammered. I mean its, you gotta come out and tell me the truth on this stuff, okay?[11] The Alaska Supreme Court held that threat-induced confessions are presumptively involuntary absent affirmative evidence that the suspects will was not overcome by the threats.12 The court concluded that Beaverss confession was involuntary under this standard because the troopers statement that Beavers would get hammered if he attempted to hide his involvement in the robberies conveyed the unmistakable message that Beavers would be punished for exercising his constitutional right to silence.13 The court found no affirmative indications that these threats had not overcome Beaverss will.14 In reaching this conclusion, the supreme court relied heavily on the Ninth Circuits decision in United States v. Harrison.15 Harrison, who was suspected of money laundering, opened the door of her home to find some fifteen federal agents with guns drawn.16 The agents searched Harrisons house and arrested her and her companion.17 Harrison was advised of her Miranda rights.18 Then, after a brief silence, an agent informed Harrison of the evidence linking her to the crime and told her she could face a 20-year sentence.19 The agent then asked her whether she thought it would be better if the judge were told that she had cooperated or had not cooperated.20 Harrison said it would be better if she talked to the agents and they told the judge she had cooperated. Harrison then confessed her role in the crime.21 The Ninth Circuit concluded the police acted improperly by suggesting to Harrison that they might inform the court she had not cooperated.22 The court concluded that [a]lthough the agents thinly veiled their implied message behind a rhetorical question, Harrison could only conclude that she might suffer for her silence.23 In reaching this conclusion, the Ninth Circuit observed that police generally may suggest to a defendant that cooperation could result in a more lenient sentence.24 And the court acknowledged that suggestions to a defendant that cooperation will result in a more lenient sentence and threats to inform the prosecutor of the defendants refusal to cooperate are simply different sides of the same coin: waive your rights and receive more favorable treatment versus exercise your rights and receive less favorable treatment. 25 But the court noted two circumstances distinguishing threats from promises of leniency.26 First, a defendant may benefit from learning about the possibility of a reduced sentence.27 Second, speculation that cooperation will benefit the defendant, or even promises to recommend leniency, generally are not sufficiently compelling to overbear a defendants will.28 By contrast, there is no legitimate purpose for the statement that failure to cooperate will be reported.29 The supreme court recognized this difference in Beavers: [We] agree with the Ninth Circuits distinction between promises of leniency and threats of harsher treatment.30 Munson argues the threat in Harrison is nearly identical to Detective Hoffbecks scenario. He claims the only purpose of Hoffbecks rhetorical question was to suggest to Munson that he would be punished for asserting his right to silence. Thus, Munson argues the scenario was inherently coercive under Harrison and Beavers. We agree with Judge Wolverton that Detective Hoffbecks scenario did not threaten Munson with harsher treatment if he asserted his right to silence. As the State points out, Hoffbeck did not threaten to inform the judge of Munsons non-cooperation, as did the federal agents in Harrison.31 Nor did Hoffbeck threaten that Munson would be treated more harshly than normal if he did not cooperate, as was the case in Beavers.32 Rather, Detective Hoffbeck presented a scenario that suggested cooperation might work to Munsons benefit. The fact that a benefit might flow from cooperation is not the equivalent of a threat of harsher treatment in the event of non-cooperation. Hoffbeck told Munson that he was not making a threat or promise or telling him what to do. And at the conclusion of the interview, Munson acknowledged that he had not been threatened. Accordingly, Munsons confession was not presumptively involuntary under Beavers. Judge Wolverton also concluded that Munsons statement was voluntary under the traditional totality of the circumstances test. A confession is involuntary if an examination of all the circumstances discloses that the conduct of law enforcement was such as to overbear (the defendants) will to resist and bring about confessions not freely self determined.33 In evaluating the totality of the circumstances to determine whether a confession was voluntary, we consider the age, mentality, and prior criminal experience of the accused; the length, intensity and frequency of interrogation; the existence of physical deprivation or mistreatment; and the existence of threat or inducement.34 The State has the burden to show by a preponderance of the evidence that a confession was voluntary.35 When the accused is a juvenile this is a heavy burden of proof.36 We independently examine the record to determine the defendants mental state and its legal significance and base our conclusion on the voluntariness of the confession on the totality of the circumstances surrounding the defendants statement.37 Munson argues that the following circumstances show his confession was involuntary: he was seventeen years old, under arrest, told he was charged with first-degree murder with bail set at $500,000, and interrogated outside Alaska without a parent present. On the other hand, Munsons interview lasted less than two hours. Munson had something to drink and was offered crackers. There was no evidence that Munson was physically exhausted. Detective Hoffbeck testified that Munson did not appear to be under the influence of alcohol or drugs. Judge Wolverton found that Hoffbecks demeanor was nonthreatening. And this was not Munsons first contact with police officers for a serious crime; Munson previously had been interviewed by police and confessed to a burglary of a record store in Anchorage. From our independent review of the record, we conclude that Munsons statement was voluntary. We next address a remaining point raised by the State. The State claims that Beavers, which the supreme court decided after Munsons interview with the police, should not apply retroactively because it announced a new rule of law that a threat-induced confession is presumptively involuntary. However, this argument is moot because the scenario described by Detective Hoffbeck was not a threat. Did Munson invoke his right to silence? Munson next claims he invoked his right to silence during his interview with Detective Hoffbeck and therefore, any post-invocation statements should be suppressed. In the interview, Munson discussed the events leading up to the homicide but became hesitant when the topic moved to Camangas involvement with the guns. Hoffbeck: Who brought [the guns] over? Munson: Sam [Camanga]. Hoffbeck: Sam brought em over? How many did he bring over that time? Munson: What? Hoffbeck: Guns ... Munson: I saw one ... Hoffbeck: What uh ... what was that? Munson: Think it was the 9 mm ... or .45, I dont know. Hoffbeck: Well, both of these type show up there so ... which one is the first one, do you remember? Munson: I think it was the .45. Hoffbeck: .45? Munson: Uhhuh. Whats gonna happen? Is Sam gonna know Im saying this? Hoffbeck: Maybe Sams already talked to me. Munson: No, but ... Hoffbeck: Eventually Sam is going to know, yes ... the answer to that is yes. Everybody ... everybody involved is going to know eventually ... yes they will. Munson: Well, Im done talkin then. Hoffbeck: Before you make a final decision on that there ... play that tape there for him ... Munson: You know whatll happen to me? Hoffbeck: Listen to this here ... The officers then played a tape recording of a conversation seized under a Glass warrant38 in which Munson admitted watching Camanga shoot Gorsche in the head. Hoffbeck pointed out that the tape recording showed Munson already had admitted that he witnessed the murder and that Camanga was the shooter. He also reassured Munson that Camanga would not retaliate. The interview continued, and Munson continued to describe his involvement in the homicide. In the superior court, Munson raised a two-pronged claim that he had invoked his right to silence. First, he argued that he clearly invoked his right to silence and that anything he said after that statement had to be suppressed. In the alternative, he argued that if his invocation of his right to silence was ambiguous or equivocal, then the officers were obliged to clarify the ambiguity before proceeding with the interview. The State argued that Munson had not clearly invoked his right to silence but that his comment about silence was equivocal because it expressed Munsons concern that Camanga would learn that he had talked to police. The State also argued that when a defendant makes an equivocal reference to the right to silence, a police officer has no obligation to clarify the reference. However, the State claimed that Detective Hoffbeck clarified Munsons statement. At the evidentiary hearing, Detective Hoffbeck testified he did not believe Munson was exercising a Miranda right to silence when he said, Well, Im done talkin then. Instead, Hoffbeck thought Munson was expressing a concern that Camanga would learn what he was telling the police and retaliate against him. Judge Wolverton found Detective Hoffbecks testimony on the issue was honest and candid. But Judge Wolverton held that Hoffbeck was required to clarify what Munson meant by his statement Well, Im done talkin then by either reaffirming Munsons waiver or by readvising him of the Miranda warnings before continuing. Implicit in Judge Wolvertons analysis is his rejection of Munsons claim that he had made an unequivocal assertion of his right to silence. If Munson had made such an unequivocal assertion, then no clarification would have been needed; the interview should simply have ended.39 Judge Wolverton concluded that Detective Hoffbeck mistakenly believed there was a distinction between a defendants invocation of the right to silence and a request for counsel. Judge Wolverton agreed with Munsons position that the law recognizes no distinction between a defendants assertion of either right. Alaska law does require the police to clarify an equivocal or ambiguous request for counsel. In Hampel v. State,40 we noted that the case law divided into two generally recognized approaches when a defendant made an ambiguous or equivocal request for counsel: Some courts, interpreting literally the language in Miranda that the right to counsel may be invoked in any manner, have held that all questioning must cease upon any reference to counsel, however ambiguous or equivocal. The second approach is to permit a limited inquiry for the purpose of clarification after an accused makes a statement that arguably might be construed as a request for counsel. In Giacomazzi v. State, 633 P.2d 218, 222 (Alaska 1981), the Alaska Supreme Court implicitly rejected the first approach, while approving of the second. In noting the difficulty for a police officer in determining whether a suspect indeed intends to invoke his right to have an attorney present, the court stated: For this reason, the officer may seek clarification of the suspects desires. Permitting clarification of an accuseds request is necessary to protect his rights without unduly interfering with reasonable police questioning. This approach avoids the rigid rule of prohibiting further questioning upon any vague reference to an attorney, while providing police and the courts with a standard which protects the rights of those who desire the presence of counsel at questioning but whose requests fail to meet an arbitrary threshold of clarity. We therefore follow the second, more pragmatic, approach. In keeping with Giacomazzi, we hold that when the accused makes an ambiguous or equivocal reference to counsel during a custodial interrogation, the officer need not immediately terminate the interrogation. Further questioning, however, must be limited to clarifying the reference. Thus, any questioning on the subject matter of the investigation must be suspended until the intent of the accused is clarified.[41] The United States Supreme Court has since adopted a new standard when an accused makes an ambiguous or equivocal reference to counsel. In Davis v. United States,42 a closely divided Court reasoned that if a suspect makes a reference to an attorney that is ambiguous or equivocal in that a reasonable officer in light of the circumstances would have understood only that the suspect might be invoking the right to counsel, our precedents do not require the cessation of questioning.43 The majority stated: If the suspects statement is not an unambiguous or unequivocal request for counsel, the officers have no obligation to stop questioning him.44 Since this decision, courts have extended Davis to cases where a suspect has made an ambiguous or equivocal reference to the right to silence.45 Furthermore, in Hampel v. State, we noted that the right to counsel is more rigidly observed than the right to silence and that situations where a defendant made an ambiguous or equivocal reference to his right to silence were distinguishable from situations where a defendant made an equivocal reference to the right to counsel.46 Several Alaska cases supported that distinction. For example, in Vail v. State,47 the supreme court upheld continued police questioning of one co-defendant who had waived his Miranda rights but said that he did not want to talk about his co-defendant.48 The supreme court concluded that this remark was an ambiguous remark that was not intended to cut off questioning entirely.49 In Pierce v. State,50 we rejected a claim that the State had not shown that Pierce had waived his rights.51 Pierce told the police that he was not sure that he wished to waive his rights but continued to answer questions.52 In Nashoalook v. State,53 we concluded that a fair and common sense reading of the totality of Nashoalooks interview with the police did not reflect an intent on Nashoalooks part to cut off questioning entirely.54 Instead, we concluded that Nashoalook was concerned that the interview was being tape recorded and that others in his community would find out what he told the police.55 Because the circumstances around Nashoalooks refusal to answer questions were ambiguous, we concluded that further questioning was not prohibited.56 Detective Hoffbeck testified that he concluded from Munsons statement, Well, Im done talkin then, that Munson was afraid Camanga would retaliate against him if he talked to the police. Detective Hoffbeck stated he did not believe that Munson was exercising his right to remain silent. Therefore, he continued to talk with Munson to allay his concerns about retaliation. Judge Wolverton accepted Detective Hoffbecks testimony, finding it to be candid and honest. Furthermore, an objective reading of the transcript of Detective Hoffbecks interview with Munson supports the conclusion that Munson was expressing fear of retaliation rather than exercising his right to remain silent. Under these circumstances, we conclude that Detective Hoffbeck did not violate Munsons constitutional right to remain silent when he continued to interview Munson after Munson made the statement Well, Im done talkin then. Conclusion We AFFIRM the superior courts order that concluded Munsons confession was voluntary. We REVERSE the superior courts order suppressing the portion of Munsons interview after Munson said, Well, Im done talkin then. _______________________________ 1 Miranda v. Arizona, 384 U.S. 436 (1966). 2 A transcript of the relevant portion of the interview is attached to this opinion as an appendix. 3 See State v. Glass, 583 P.2d 872, 881 (Alaska 1978), on rehg, 596 P.2d 10 (Alaska 1979) (holding that under Alaska Constitution police must obtain judicial authorization before surreptitiously recording private conversation). 4 State v. Munson, Mem. Op. & J., No. 4494 at 14-15 (Alaska App., Nov. 21, 2001). 5 Id. at 14. 6 Id. Judge Wolverton suppressed Munsons statement because he concluded that an invocation of either the right to remain silent or the right to counsel triggers a duty by the police to clarify a suspects intent to exercise his right against self-incrimination. 7 Hampel v. State, 706 P.2d 1173, 1180 (Alaska App. 1985). 8 512 U.S. 452, 461-62 (1994). 9 State v. Munson, Mem. Op. & J., No. 4494 at 15-17 (discussing development of state and federal law regarding ambiguous invocations of right to counsel). 10 Id. at 16 n.45. 11 Id. at 17 (citing Hampel v. State, 706 P.2d 1173, 1179 n.4 (Alaska App. 1985)). 12 Id. at 19. 13 U.S. Const. amend. V. 14 Alaska Const. art. I, 9. 15 See, e.g., State v. Smith, 38 P.3d 1149, 1153 (Alaska 2002) (whether suspect in custody for Miranda purposes presents mixed question of law and fact qualifying for independent review) (internal quotations and citations omitted). 16 Id. 17 Id. 18 Id. 19 Guin v. Ha, 591 P.2d 1281, 1284 n.6 (Alaska 1979). 20 State v. Munson, Mem. Op. & J., No. 4494 at 19. 21 For more discussion on the effect of a suspects subjective motivation on his custodial invocation of the right to silence, see infra Part IV.B. 22 On direct examination at the suppression hearing, the investigator acknowledged that he understood that Munson wanted to stop at that point, but indicated his belief that he had no duty to stop asking questions until a suspect asks to speak to a lawyer or refuses to answer questions. 23 Our review of the transcript from the evidentiary hearing convinces us that Judge Wolvertons comments are best understood to indicate that an invocation of the right to silence accords similar protections as an invocation of the right to counsel, not that Munsons request was ambiguous. 24 Miranda v. Arizona, 384 U.S. 436 (1966) (Fifth Amendment protection against self-incrimination grants to suspect in custodial interrogation right to counsel and right to remain silent). 25 Id. at 439; Beavers v. State, 998 P.2d 1040, 1045-46 n.25 (Alaska 2000); see also Dickerson v. United States, 530 U.S. 428, 435 (2000). 26 See, e.g., United States v. Patane, 542 U.S. 630, 638 (2004). 27 Miranda, 384 U.S. at 477; Beavers, 998 P.2d at 1045 & n.25. 28 Dickerson, 530 U.S. at 435 (discussing Miranda, 384 U.S. at 442, 479). 29 Missouri v. Seibert, 542 U.S. 600, 608 (2004). 30 See Smith v. Illinois, 469 U.S. 91, 99 n.8 (1984). 31 Dickerson, 530 U.S. at 433-34. 32 Smith, 469 U.S. at 95; see also Edwards v. Arizona, 451 U.S. 477, 486 n.9 (1981). 33 United States v. Patane, 542 U.S. 630, 639 (2004). 34 Dickerson, 530 U.S. at 444. 35 Miranda v. Arizona, 384 U.S. 436, 473-74 (1966). 36 Id. at 444-45 (emphasis added). 37 Michigan v. Mosley, 423 U.S. 96, 103-04 (1975). 38 Id. at 104. Cautioning against the absurd and unintended results that could flow from unreasonably literal interpretation of Miranda, the Mosley Court held that while Miranda did not require the perpetual cessation of interrogation after a suspect has invoked his right to silence, neither did it permit a resumption of interrogation after a momentary respite. Id. The Court did not define precisely what it meant by scrupulously honor[ing] a suspects invocation of the right to silence, but it found that Mosleys rights were fully respected because, after he invoked his right to silence, the officer ceased questioning him entirely and, after a delay of more than two hours, Mosley was re-Mirandized by another officer and interviewed about a separate crime. Id. at 104-06. The court found these actions to be sufficient because it saw no evidence that the police had failed to respect a request to cut off questioning or had made repeated efforts to wear down his resistance and make [the defendant] change his mind. Id. at 105- 06. 39 Emspak v. United States, 349 U.S. 190, 194 (1955). 40 Davis v. United States, 512 U.S. 452, 459 (1994). 41 State v. Gonzalez, 853 P.2d 526, 530 (Alaska 1993) (quotation omitted). 42 Miranda, 384 U.S. at 477. 43 Davis, 512 U.S. at 459. 44 Hoffman v. United States, 341 U.S. 479, 486-87 (1951). 45 Vail v. State, 599 P.2d 1371, 1378 (Alaska 1979). 46 Michigan v. Mosley, 423 U.S. 96, 104 (1975). 47 Id. at 106. 48 To the extent that this interpretation may be more protective than federal constitutional law, we base our ruling on article I, section 9 of the Alaska Constitution. See Beavers v. State, 998 P.2d 1040, 1046 n.30 (Alaska 2000). While we have observed that the language of 9 is virtually identical to the wording of the Fifth Amendment of the United States Constitution, Biele v. State, 371 P.2d 811, 813 n.6 (Alaska 1962), we have interpreted 9 more broadly than the U.S. Supreme Court has construed the Fifth Amendment of the Federal Constitution. Scott v. State, 519 P.2d 774, 785 (Alaska 1974). In so doing, we noted our responsibility to depart whenever necessary from constitutional interpretations enunciated by the United States Supreme Court and to develop rights and privileges under the Alaska Constitution in accordance with our own unique legal background. Id. at 783. We do so because [w]e are not bound to follow blindly a federal constitutional construction of a fundamental principle if we are convinced that the result is based on unsound reason or logic. Id. More recently, in State v. Gonzalez, 825 P.2d 920 (Alaska App. 1992), the court of appeals expressed hesitation to blindly adhere to changes in federal constitutional law where unexpected decisions of the Supreme Court have forced a serious reevaluation of . . . fundamentals. Id. at 931 (internal citations omitted). Ultimately, the court concluded that [t]he United States Supreme Courts decisions interpreting the fifth amendment do not decide the meaning of the Alaska privilege, and similarity in language does not make the United States Supreme Court the primary interpreter of article I, 9. Id. (The court of appeals accordingly declined to adopt the Courts decision to allow use and derivative use immunity to act as a substitute for the privilege against self-incrimination or transactional immunity. Id. at 936.) 49 Davis, 512 U.S. at 461. 50 See, e.g., Mallott v. State, 608 P.2d 737, 741-43 (Alaska 1980) (ignoring or rebuffing suspects invocation of his rights will convince him that such rights are illusory). 51 We note that Detective Hoffbeck himself had a different understanding of Mirandas requirements. He testified that, in order to invoke his Miranda rights, a suspect must either ask for an attorney or stop talking; but a suspects statement that Im done talking, Ive got nothing more to say, or Im finished, I quit imposes no duty on an investigator to stop asking questions. While a more limited statement than Im done talkin then might reasonably be construed as equivocal, i.e., to express an unwillingness to speak with a particular interrogator or to respond to a particular inquiry, 2 W.R. LaFave, et al., Criminal Procedure 6.9(g) at 606 (2d ed. 1999), there is no basis to interpret Munsons broad statement as anything but an unconditional request to cut off all questioning. 52 On direct examination at the suppression hearing, the investigator acknowledged that Munson wanted to stop the interrogation, but indicated that he didnt view this as an invocation of the Miranda rights; the only reason he suggested for this view was that Munsons decision to stop appeared motivated by fear: Q. Okay. And there also came a point, and I pointed it out to you where he indicated that you were talking to him about Sam Kamanga (ph) and the others are going to learn basically what hes saying. Do you remember that? A. Yes. Q. Okay. And do you remember what he said in reply to that once he kind of learned that Mr. Kamanga (ph) was going to learn what it was that he was telling you? A. He said that he didnt want to talk anymore. Q. Okay. And what did you take that as? I mean, did you accept did you think that he was invoking his Miranda rights, for instance? A. No. Q. What did that mean to you when he said that? A. He wanted to stop at that point, I think is what he I got the impression that he didnt really want Sam to hear what he had to say. And so at that point then he says, no, I got nothing I dont I want a I forget exactly the the words he said. But I said, before you make up your final mind, listen to what whats on this tape here. (Emphasis added.) Returning to this issue in his cross-examination, the investigator cemented the point that he hadnt seen anything circumstantially ambiguous in Munsons desire to stop questioning, but merely felt that Munson did not express his desire in a way that required the investigator to cease the interrogation: Q. . . . So when Paul said, Im done talking, then, you didnt say, do you mean you want to stop talking, did you? A. Nope. Q. Probably because that would have sounded kind of stupid since he just said Im done talking, right? A. Is that a question? Q. Yeah, that was a question. A. Well, what was your question again? Q. My question was if someone says to you, Im done talking, to ask them are you done talking . . . A. They -- Ive heard that said to me many times in an interview . . . Q. No . . . A. . . . Ive got nothing more to say, Im -- Im finished, I quit. Q. Uh-huh (affirmative). And do you always just keep right on interrogating? A. Until they ask to -- to talk -- for a lawyer or something, I do, yeah. Q. I see, okay. So to you theres no distinction between saying, Im done talking, that -- it doesnt matter until they ask for a lawyer, is that what youre . . . A. No, no, because -- go back to the rights there. It says you can stop talking at any time. This testimony does not suggest any misunderstanding of Munsons request. In the investigators view, Munson was free to exercise his Miranda right of silence by refusing to answer at any time, but he could not prevent continued interrogation unless he expressly pinned his decision to a request for counsel. (Or perhaps, viewing the testimony most charitably to the investigator and in the light least favorable to affirming the superior courts decision, it might have been enough for Munson to have pinned his decision to his specific intent to invoke his right against self-incrimination, excluding all lesser reasons; but even under this charitable view, Munson could not have forced interrogation to stop merely for fear of reprisals.) Despite recognizing that Munson had made a clear request to end the interrogation, then, the investigator nonetheless felt that Munson had failed to invoke his Miranda rights because he had failed to come up with the right reason for stopping: it was up to Munson to cease answering under these circumstances, the investigator believed, not up to him to cease questioning. As the superior court implicitly recognized, the investigators testimony however well-intentioned it might have been simply betrayed a fundamentally incorrect understanding of Mosleys requirement that police conducting a custodial interrogation must scrupulously honor any clear attempt by the defendant to cut off questioning entirely. 53 Rhode Island v. Innis, 446 U.S. 291, 301 (1980) (defining interrogation under Miranda to include any words or actions on the part of police (other than those normally attendant to arrest and custody) that the police should know are reasonably likely to elicit an incriminating response). 54 Michigan v. Mosley, 423 U.S. 96 (1975). 55 James v. State, 75 P.3d 1065, 1068 (Alaska App. 2003) (footnotes omitted) (quoting Hoffman v. United States, 341 U.S. 479, 486-87 (1951)). 56 2 W.R. LaFave, et al., Criminal Procedure 6.9(g) at 606 (2d ed. 1999). 57 Id. at 607. The cases the state cites as involving invocations of Miranda that were deemed ambiguous despite being clear in the literal sense support LaFaves assertion, generally describing circumstances that made the literal requests to stop questioning appear to be much more limited in their intended meaning. Id. at 607-09 and nn.138-44. LaFave notes: As for assertion of the right to remain silent, any declaration of a desire to terminate the contact or inquiry (e.g., Dont bother me) should suffice. The same is true of silence in the face of repeated questioning, or an effort to end the contact with the interrogator. On the other hand, a statement which is much more limited in the sense that it expresses an unwillingness to respond to a particular interrogator . . . or an unwillingness or inability to respond to a particular inquiry . . . is not a general claim of the privilege. Id. at 606. 58 While the Miranda test is an objective one that is, the court must objectively evaluate whether Munsons demand to stop talking was equivocal under the totality of the circumstances in which it was actually made we believe that an understanding of the investigators subjective state of mind is relevant to our inquiry, for it tends to show how a presumably reasonable officer with a first-hand view actually did understand the defendants request to stop talking. Because the officers subjective impression here, that Munson wished to end the interrogation coincides with our own, it tends to confirm that our impression of the record is an accurate assessment of what a reasonable officer would think. 59 Munsons statement of Well, Im done talkin then could be viewed as a conditional assertion of silence that is, that Munson would not speak to the interrogator unless he was first granted protection from his co-defendant. Without deciding whether and to what extent an interrogator may respond to a conditional invocation, we note that the investigators response to Munsons statement was in no way an inquiry into whether the interrogation could continue if the condition were satisfied. Rather, his response was simply directed at persuading Munson to withdraw his otherwise unequivocal invocation. 60 Michigan v. Mosley, 423 U.S. 96, 103-04 (1975). 61 Id. at 105-06. 62 Smith v. Illinois, 469 U.S. 91, 98-99 (1984) (citation omitted) (emphasis in original). 63 257 F.3d 513 (6th Cir.) (2001). 64 Id. at 514. 65 Id. at 515. 66 Id. at 519. 67 Id. 1 Playing the surreptitiously recorded tape in which Munson and another participant discuss the crime was probably intended as a persuasive tool to convince Munson to talk, regardless of his reasons for not talking. But the fact that one has already been tricked by a co-participant into making a tape- recorded statement about a crime would be relevant to a defendant who is hesitant to speak because of fear of reprisals. As the state argues, the tape showed that as a reason to stop talking fear of retaliation by Camanga . . . was irrational as Munson had already incriminated Camanga in the surreptitiously recorded conversation. 2 Miranda v. Arizona, 384 U.S. 436 (1966). 3 Slip Op. at 11; Medina v. Singletary, 59 F.3d 1095, 1101 (11th Cir. 1995) (rejecting equivocal or ambiguous invocation). 4 512 U.S. 452, 459 (1994). 5 Id. Many cases have adopted this statement as the crux of the Davis test. See, e.g., Fitz v. State, 566 S.E.2d 668, 672 (Ga. 2002); Taylor v. State, 689 N.E.2d 699, 703 (Ind. 1997); Commonwealth v. Jones, 786 N.E.2d 1197, 1206 (Mass. 2003). 6 See United States v. Hurst, 228 F.3d 751, 759-60 (6th Cir. 2000); United States v. Banks, 78 F.3d 1190, 1197 (7th Cir. 1996), vacated on other grounds, Mills v. United States, 519 U.S. 990 (1996); Medina, 59 F.3d at 1101. 7 See Slip Op. at 11 (test is based on how the statement would be understood by a reasonable officer in the circumstances); Davis, 512 U.S. at 459 (same); see also Nashoalook v. State, 663 P.2d 975, 977 (Alaska App. 1983) (rejecting argument that defendant had invoked Miranda right to silence, based on totality of circumstances); United States v. Johnson, 56 F.3d 947, 955 (8th Cir. 1995) (similar). In the analogous context of determining whether a suspect is in custody for Miranda purposes, we have adopted an objective test and explicitly rejected a subjective test based on the thoughts of the police officer or defendant. State v. Salit, 613 P.2d 245, 257 (Alaska 1980); see also Hampel v. State, 706 P.2d 1173, 1181 n.7 (Alaska App. 1985) (in measuring the coercive effect of an officers response to an equivocal assertion of the right to counsel, We emphasize that the standard we adopt is an objective one, and does not depend on the subjective intent of the interrogating officer.). 8 See State v. Ridgley, 732 P.2d 550, 554 (Alaska 1987) (while determinations of observable facts are reviewed for clear error, inferences of suspects mental state based on observable facts and the ultimate voluntariness of confession are subject to de novo review); State v. Smith, 38 P.3d 1149, 1153 (Alaska 2002) (similar, whether suspect was in custody for Miranda purposes was mixed question of law and fact). I note that some cases from other jurisdictions review purported invocations of Miranda rights under the clearly erroneous standard. See, e.g., United States v. Johnson, 56 F.3d 947, 955 (8th Cir. 1995). There is however a good argument that these decisions are not only inconsistent with our precedent, but contrary to Ornelas v. United States, 517 U.S. 690 (1996). Ornelas holds that once the historical facts are established, probable cause determinations, including whether the facts suffice to generate a reasonable suspicion in a reasonable officer, are to be determined de novo on appeal. The United States Supreme Court has further suggested that Ornelas should govern decisions on whether Miranda has been invoked. See Mills v. United States, 519 U.S. 990 (1996). 9 See, e.g., Nashoalook, 663 P.2d at 977-78 (viewing the totality of the circumstances, defendants refusal to speak could be understood as an objection to tape-recording rather than an objection to interrogation in any form, was therefore an ambiguous or equivocal invocation of the right to silence, and thus did not obligate the police to cease further interrogation). 10 In a police interrogation setting, but not in court. See Minnesota v. Murphy, 465 U.S. 420, 429-30 (1984) (Miranda does not apply outside the context of the inherently coercive custodial interrogations for which it was designed; outside such contexts a person is required to answer a question unless there is some rational basis for believing that it will incriminate him) (internal quotation marks omitted); United States v. Kilgroe, 959 F.2d 802, 804-05 (9th Cir. 1992) (the courtroom . . . is not the type of setting that would justify invoking Mirandas prophylactic rule. The Miranda Court itself recognized that the compulsion to speak in the isolated setting of the police station may well be greater than in courts or other official investigations, where there are often impartial observers to guard against intimidation or trickery. ) (footnote and citation omitted); 1 John W. Strong et al., McCormick on Evidence 123, at 472 (5th ed. 1999) (in-court assertions of privilege appear to require at least a theoretical risk of [criminal] liability); cf. Kastigar v. United States, 406 U.S. 441 (1972) (government may compel testimony from witnesses over self-incrimination objections if the witnesses are granted immunity from prosecution). 11 Numerous illustrative cases are collected in 2 Wayne R. LaFave et al., Criminal Procedure 6.9(g), at 607 n.141 (2d ed. 1999). 12 Id. 6.9(g), at 607 (footnote omitted). 13 See, e.g., Nashoalook, 663 P.2d at 977-78 (refusal to speak was, viewed in context, based on objection to tape- recording); Henry v. State, 574 So. 2d 66, 69 (Fla. 1991) (Im not saying nothing to you in context an objection to the interrogator, not an invocation of the right to silence). 14 See, e.g., United States v. Sanchez, 866 F. Supp. 1542, 1559 (D. Kan. 1994) (I cant say nothing ambiguous because reasonably interpreted by the trooper to essentially mean that the defendant could not say anything for fear of reprisal by his cohorts, rather than an invocation of his right to remain silent.); State v. Williams, 535 N.W.2d 277, 281, 284 (Minn. 1995) (After being accused of lying suspect stated I dont have to take any more . . . . and walked out of the interrogation room and back to his cell; suspects statement and behavior were motivated by anger and did not amount to an unequivocal and unambiguous invocation of his right to remain silent.). 15 The suspects dogged refusal to speak, and the interrogators determination to overcome this refusal, distinguish McGraw v. Holland, 257 F.3d 513 (6th Cir. 2001), from Munsons case. In McGraw the suspect refused to speak eight or nine times but the detective continued to insist that she answer: I just dont wanna talk about it, she said for the eighth or ninth time. . . . Refusing to take no for an answer, the detective kept urging full disclosure. Id. at 515. In addition, far from suggesting as Officer Hoffbeck did in this case that the final decision to cut off questioning was up to the suspect, the detective in McGraw told the suspect that she had to talk about the crime. Stressing the repeated nature of the suspects refusals to talk (so describing them several times during the opinion) the Sixth Circuit concluded: Any reasonable police officer, knowing that exercise of the right to silence must be scrupulously honored, would have understood that when Tina repeatedly said she did not want to talk about the rape, she should not have been told that she had to talk about it. Id. at 518 (first emphasis added). The repeated nature of the suspects refusals was an important factor underlying the courts conclusion that the suspect had unambiguously asserted her right to silence: Tinas lawyer does not deny that an invocation of the right to silence, if it is to be effective, must be unambiguous as well. As far as we can see, however, there was nothing ambiguous about Tinas repeated insistence that she did not want to talk about the rape. When Tina kept saying, without qualification, that she just did not want to talk about the subject making these declarations after she had been formally advised of her right of silence it would simply not be reasonable to take her words at less than face value. Id. at 519 (emphasis added). 16 Hoffbeck testified that he did not believe that Munson was invoking his Miranda rights. This, of course, is not binding, but, as the court of appeals noted, it is supported by an objective reading of the transcript. 17 512 U.S. at 459. 18 Davis permits officers to ignore ambiguous invocations of the Miranda right to counsel, 512 U.S. at 461-62, and this approach has been adopted by some but not all jurisdictions with respect to the right to silence. Compare Coleman v. Singletary, 30 F.3d 1420, 1424 (11th Cir. 1994) (applying Davis; police have no duty to clarify ambiguous invocation of the right to silence and may continue asking questions), with United States v. Ramirez, 79 F.3d 298, 304 (2d Cir. 1996) (appearing to impose duty to clarify). Alaska law has taken a somewhat different approach to the right to counsel, and it seems appropriate to apply a similar analysis to the right to silence. In Mallott v. State, 608 P.2d 737 (Alaska 1980), in the context of an equivocal request for counsel, we stated that the reason why an invocation of Miranda rights must be appropriately responded to is that ignoring or rebuffing a suspects invocation of his or her constitutional rights will convince the suspect that such rights are illusory. Id. at 742. We stated that this had not occurred under the circumstances of that case: Had Mallott initially desired counsel to protect his right to remain silent, we do not believe the initial trooper response and the interrogation just described would have convinced him that a second attempted exercise of his rights would have been futile. We therefore find the trooper response to Mallotts request for counsel proper . . . . Id. at 743. This aspect of Mallott can be used as a standard to decide whether a particular response to an equivocal assertion of the right to silence is legally acceptable. 1 See Miranda v. Arizona, 384 U.S. 436, 444-45, 86 S.Ct. 1602, 1612, 16 L.Ed.2d 694 (1966). 2 AS 11.41.100(a)(1)(A); AS 11.16.110. 3 AS 11.31.120. 4 AS 11.41.110(a)(1), (2); AS 11.16.110. 5 998 P.2d 1040 (Alaska 2000). 6 See id. at 1045-46, 1048. 7 See id. at 1041. 8 See id. at 1042. 9 See id. 10 See id. 11 Id. 12 See id. at 1048. 13 Id. 14 See id. 15 See id. at 1046-47 (discussing United States v. Harrison, 34 F.3d 886 (9th Cir. 1994)). 16 See Harrison, 34 F.3d at 890. 17 See id. 18 See id. 19 See id. 20 See id. 21 See id. 22 See id. at 891. 23 Id. 24 See id. 25 Id. 26 See id. 27 See id. 28 See id. 29 Id. (quoting United States v. Tingle, 658 F.2d 1332, 1336 n.5 (9th Cir. 1981)). 30 Beavers, 998 P.2d at 1047. 31 34 F.3d at 890. 32 998 P.2d at 1042. 33 Stobaugh v. State, 614 P.2d 767, 772 (Alaska 1980) (quoting United States v. Ferrara, 377 F.2d 16, 17 (2d Cir. 1967) (citations omitted)). 34 Sprague v. State, 590 P.2d 410, 414 (Alaska 1979) (quoting Brown v. United States, 356 F.2d 230, 232 (10th Cir. 1966)). 35 See Beavers, 998 P.2d at 1044. 36 See id. 37 See id. 38 See State v. Glass, 583 P.2d 872, 881 (Alaska 1978), on rehearing, 596 P.2d 10 (Alaska 1979) (holding that under the Alaska Constitution the police must obtain judicial authorization before surreptitiously recording a private conversation). 39 See Michigan v. Mosley, 423 U.S. 96, 103-04, 96 S.Ct. 321, 326, 46 L.Ed.2d 313 (1975). 40 706 P.2d 1173 (Alaska App. 1985). 41 Id. at 1179-80 (citations omitted). 42 512 U.S. 452, 114 S.Ct. 2350, 129 L.Ed.2d 362 (1994). 43 Id., 512 U.S. at 459, 114 S.Ct. at 235; 129 L.Ed.2d at 362. 44 Id., 512 U.S. at 461-62, 114 S.Ct. at 2356, 129 L.Ed.2d at 362. 45 See United States v. Hurst, 228 F.3d 751, 759-60 (6th Cir. 2000); United States v. Banks, 78 F.3d 1190, 1197-98 (7th Cir. 1996), vacated sub nom., Mills v. United States, 519 U.S. 990, 117 S.Ct. 478, 136 L.Ed.2d 373 (1996), on remand, 122 F.3d 346 (7th Cir. 1997); Coleman v. Singletary, 30 F.3d 1420, 1424 (11th Cir. 1994); Evans v. Demosthenes, 902 F. Supp. 1253, 1258- 59 (D. Nev. 1995) (predicting that Ninth Circuit would apply Davis to the right-to-silence context), affd 98 F.3d 1174, 1176 (9th Cir. 1996) (leaving open the question of whether the Davis rule extends to right to silence); Bowen v. State, 911 S.W.2d 555, 565 (Ark. 1995); People v. Arroya, 988 P.2d 1124, 1130-31 (Colo. 1999); State v. Owen, 696 So.2d 715, 718 (Fla. 1997); State v. Whipple, 5 P.3d 478, 482-84 (Idaho App. 2000); State v. Donesay, 959 P.2d 862, 871-72 (Kan. 1998) (based in part on state law); State v. King, 708 A.2d 1014, 1017 (Me. 1998); State v. Williams, 535 N.W.2d 277, 284-85 & n.3 (Minn. 1995) (based in part on prior state law); In re Frederick C., 594 N.W.2d 294, 301- 02 (Neb. App. 1999); People v. Cohen, 226 A.2d 903, 904 (N.Y. App. Div. 1996), revd on other grounds, 687 N.E.2d 1313 (N.Y. 1997); State v. Greybull, 579 N.W.2d 161, 163 (N.D. 1998); State v. Murphy, 747 N.E.2d 765, 779 (Ohio 2001); State v. Aleksey, 538 S.E.2d 248, 253 (S.C. 2000); Dowthitt v. State, 931 S.W.2d 244, 257 (Tex. Crim. App. 1996); State v. Bacon, 658 A.2d 54, 65 (Vt. 1995); Midkiff v. Commonwealth, 462 S.E.2d 112, 116 (Va. 1995) (applying state law); State v. Ross, 552 N.W.2d 428, 431-33 (Wis. App. 1996). See also 2 W.R. LaFave, et al, Criminal Procedure 6.9(g), at 605-17 (1999). 46 Hampel, 706 P.2d 1173, 1179 n.4. 47 599 P.2d 1371 (Alaska 1979). 48 See id. at 1378-79. 49 See id. 50 627 P.2d 211 (Alaska App. 1981). 51 See id. at 217. 52 See id. 53 663 P.2d 975 (Alaska App. 1983). 54 Id. at 977-78 (quoting Vail, 599 P.2d at 1378). 55 See id. at 978. 56 See id. (relying on Michigan v. Mosley, 423 U.S. 96, 96 S.Ct. 321, 46 L.Ed.2d 313 (1975) (holding that the admissibility of statements obtained after the person in custody has decided to remain silent depends under Miranda on whether the persons right to cut off questioning was scrupulously honored)).